Risky or Not?

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DALL·E - A pair of hands washing a banana under a faucet

521. Unwashed Bananas

October 09, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating bananas without washing the peal first.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Why You Should Wash Your Bananas Before Peeling Them | HuffPost Life
  • Yes! We Have No Bananas - Wikipedia
  • Betteridge's law of headlines - Wikipedia
  • banana - Risky or Not?
  • Food Safety Talk 44: Stool Sampling Tools — Food Safety Talk
October 09, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Banana, Washing produce

520. Refilling Sodastream Canisters in a BSL2 Lab Using German Hardware

October 06, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of refilling Sodastream canisters in a BSL2 lab using German hardware.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • FoodCoVNET | NC State Extension
  • Biosafety Levels 1, 2, 3 & 4: What’s the Difference?
  • co2-adapter.de – Sodastream Zylinder selbst nachfüllen
  • Food-grade CO2: brief explanation | IKAROS SRL
  • Carbon Dioxide Pipelines: Safety Issues
  • Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Purity Grade Chart | CO2Meter.com
  • Sodastream Bulk Fill Adapter
October 06, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Sodastream, Carbon dioxide, Biosafety level 2

DALL·E - A fat ill looking German butcher with Hepatitis with a bloody white apron holding a plate of raw pork on bread covered in onions and parsley

519. Mett, Fresh From a Butcher

October 04, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating mett, fresh from a butcher.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • haroldina on X: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman I interact with some Germans who are awfully excited about spreading raw pork on bread and calling it food. https://t.co/bKS6hM3SAB You did this with beef before, but is there some way to not risky just because "it's fresh from a butcher"? https://t.co/tnuWlMPr5r" / X
  • Mett - Wikipedia
  • Joint FAO/WHO Expert Meeting on microbiological risk assessment of viruses in foods - Part 1: food attribution, analytical methods and indicators
  • Hepatitis E virus and related viruses in wild, domestic and zoo animals: A review - Spahr - 2018 - Zoonoses and Public Health - Wiley Online Library
  • Occurrence of Hepatitis E Virus in Pigs and Pork Cuts and Organs at the Time of Slaughter, Spain, 2017 - PMC
  • Outbreaks attributed to pork in the United States, 1998–2015 - PMC
  • X.J. Meng, MD, MS, PhD | Virginia-Maryland College of Veterinary Medicine | Virginia Tech
October 04, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Mett, Pork, Salmonella, Hepatitis E

518. Attending 2023 Blue Ridge Rock Festival

October 02, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from attending 2023 Blue Ridge Rock Festival.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Blue Ridge Rock Festival Attendees Plagued by Gastrointestinal Illness – Rolling Stone
  • What's Going on With Blue Ridge Rock Fest? Venue Responds
  • 512. Attending Burning Man 2023 — Risky or Not?
  • Insane Clown Posse - Wikipedia
  • Blue Ridge Rock Festival
October 02, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Festivals, Gatherings, Porta-potty, Rain

DALL·E - cross section line art of a tomato plant growing out of an underground septic tank

517. Growing Vegetables In Chris's Abandoned Septic Tank Soil

September 29, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating vegetables grown in soil from an abandoned septic tank.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Always Be Closing - Glengarry Glen Ross (2/10) Movie CLIP (1992) HD - YouTube
  • 506. Kids on Lawns Irrigated With Water Containing Pathogenic E. coli — Risky or Not?
  • Jimmy Hoffa - Wikipedia
  • R.E.M. - Nightswimming (Official Music Video) [British Version] - YouTube
  • Night soil - Wikipedia
  • Sources of Pathogenic Microorganisms and Their Fate during Land Application of Wastes - Gerba - 2005 - Journal of Environmental Quality - Wiley Online Library
  • A History of Human Waste as Fertilizer - JSTOR Daily
  • Septic System Abandonment | Public Health
  • Norovirus Outbreak Caused by a New Septic System in a Dolomite Aquifer - Borchardt - 2011 - Groundwater - Wiley Online Library
  • Full article: A review of the fate and transport of nitrogen, phosphorus, pathogens, and trace organic chemicals in septic systems
  • Septic System Pollution Contributes to Disease Outbreaks - Circle of Blue
  • Contamination of Groundwater Systems in the US and Canada by Enteric Pathogens, 1990–2013: A Review and Pooled-Analysis | PLOS ONE
September 29, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Sewage, Septic systems

516. Horchata

September 27, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of drinking horchata made from uncooked rice.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • National Horchata Day - September 24, 2023 - National Today
  • Horchata - Wikipedia
  • Horchata (Cinnamon Rice Milk) Recipe
  • Sieve Chant | Wisconsin Badgers.)
  • "How Do You Do, Fellow Kids?" | Know Your Meme
  • Poisoning sends 38 Mexican kindergarteners to hospital | CNN
  • Horchata | SpringerLink
  • Thermal and non-thermal preservation techniques of tiger nuts' beverage “horchata de chufa”. Implications for food safety, nutritional and quality properties - ScienceDirect
  • Horchata Recipe
  • National Outbreak Reporting System (NORS) | CDC
  • Gym Tacos - Raleigh, NC
September 27, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Rice, Time temperature control for safety

515. Foaming Watermelon

September 25, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from foaming watermelon.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Patrick Quade on X: "@benjaminchapman @bugcounter👋 Foaming, exploding watermelons, could be a good risky or not? It's blowing up on social media rn (had to). https://t.co/uc5J4jpfrP https://t.co/TBOSopy1e0" / X
  • Why Are Watermelons Exploding or Foaming?
  • Stephen Reiners | CALS
  • Outbreaks Associated with Cantaloupe, Watermelon, and Honeydew in the United States, 1973–2011 - PMC
  • TikTok - Make Your Day - Not Safe For Work
September 25, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Watermelon, Fermentation

514. Tomato From of a Seed That Went Through Sewage Treatment

September 22, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from eating a tomato off of a plant that grew from a seed that went through sewage treatment.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Marie on X: "@neorsd Okay I think this has to be asked @benjaminchapman @bugcounter I’m thinking the canonical question would be something like “eating a tomato off of a plant that grew from a seed that went through sewage treatment. #riskyornot ?” 💩 🍅" / X
  • Internalization of Bacterial Pathogens in Tomatoes and Their Control by Selected Chemicals - ScienceDirect
  • Internalization of Salmonella enterica by tomato fruit - ScienceDirect
  • Effects of Tomato Variety, Temperature Differential, and Post–Stem Removal Time on Internalization of Salmonella enterica Serovar Thompson in Tomatoes - ScienceDirect
  • Visualizing pathogen internalization pathways in fresh tomatoes using MicroCT and confocal laser scanning microscopy - ScienceDirect
  • Internalization of Salmonella enterica serovar Montevideo into greenhouse tomato plants through contaminated irrigation water or seed stock - PubMed
September 22, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Sewage, Tomato, Internalization

DALL·E - 12 flies in a a glass of soda

513. 12 Flies in a Soda Dispenser

September 20, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of soda from soda dispenser that just harbored 12 flies.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • OB Cycler on X: "@alextwenzel question for risky or not @bugcounter @benjaminchapman ?" / X
  • Coca-Cola Freestyle Home Page
  • Pests We Treat - Dirty Soda Machine Causes Causes Fruit Fly Infestation in Morganville, NJ
  • Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Tiny little bugs
  • Soda Gun Gets Infested with Fruit Flies - YouTube
  • Surface Sanitation and Microbiological Food Quality of a University Foodservice Operation - 1996 - Foodservice Research International - Wiley Online Library
  • Understanding and Controlling Microbiological Contamination of Beverage Dispensers in University Foodservice Operations
  • Cronut burger illnesses at CNE caused by maple bacon jam | CBC News
September 20, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Flies, Soda

512. Attending Burning Man 2023

September 18, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of attending Burning Man 2023.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Extremely online - Wikipedia
  • Burning Man
  • Burning Man - Wikipedia
  • Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival
  • Fyre Festival - Wikipedia
  • False claim Ebola outbreak reported at Burning Man | Fact check
  • Burning Man 2023: Bay Area doctor urging attendees to wash off mud as soon as possible to avoid skin infections - ABC7 New York
  • Hundreds of Tough Mudder racers infected by rugged, nasty bacterium | Ars Technica
  • Outbreak of Campylobacteriosis Associated with a Long-Distance Obstacle Adventure Race — Nevada, October 2012
  • A large outbreak of antibiotic-resistant shigellosis at a mass gathering - PubMed
  • Diplo and Chris Rock Ride Out of Burning Man on Pickup Truck
September 18, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Festivals, Gatherings, Mud

511. Travelling on a Diarrhea Plane for 2 Hours

September 15, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of traveling on a plane with diarrhea in the aisle for 2 hours.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Joe Rogan - Wikipedia
  • Passengers onboard diarrhea plane share ordeal
  • Delta Flight Emergency From Passenger's Diarrhea: What Happened?
  • Food Safety Talk 37: Inoculating the Plane — Food Safety Talk
  • Where does A/C abbreviation for aircraft come from? - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange
  • Diarrhea and vomit seats: Why planes are extremely gross right now - The Washington Post
  • Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime (Official Video) - YouTube
September 15, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Diarrhea, Airplane, Cross-contamination

510 - A wise man that looks like a plant pouring water into a half filled bottle of kombucha

510. Sage's Diluted Kombucha

September 13, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of drinking kombucha which is diluted gradually over time.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Kombucha, Kefir, Coconut Yogurt, Adaptogenic Tea
  • SYNERGY Raw Kombucha | GT's Living Foods


September 13, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Kombucha

DALL·E - A pint glass of beer with cute cartoon bacteria in it

509. Non-Alcoholic Beers on Tap

September 11, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks posed by having nonalcoholic beer on tap.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Sage on X: "@OlympicTavern Risky or Not, @bugcounter @benjaminchapman?" / X
  • Growth and Survival of Foodborne Pathogens in Beer - ScienceDirect
  • Survival of Foodborne Pathogenic Bacteria (Bacillus cereus, Escherichia coli O157:H7, Salmonella enterica Serovar Typhimurium, Staphylococcus aureus, and Listeria monocytogenes) and Bacillus cereus Spores in Fermented Alcoholic Beverages (Beer and Refined Rice Wine) - ScienceDirect
  • Sci-Hub | Pathogens in Beer. Beer in Health and Disease Prevention, 403–413 | 10.1016/b978-0-12-373891-2.00039-0
  • lake effect kid on X: "@MarkLaFaro @bugcounter @benjaminchapman more context / input for a potential episode 👀" / X
  • Mitch Steele (@MitchHopTripper) / X
  • Mitch Steele - New Realm Brewing Co.
September 11, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Beer, Alcohol

DALL·E - A watch wristband covered in bacteria in photo realistic style

508. Wristbands

September 08, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of microorganisms on watch wrist bands.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • What are the Scout Oath and Scout Law? | Boy Scouts of America
  • Robot or Not | The Incomparable Wiki | Fandom
  • Daring Fireball: Watch Bands Get Dirty, Headlines Get Clickbaity
  • Prevalence and Disinfection of Bacteria Associated with Various Types of Wristbands
  • Advances in Infectious Diseases Citefactor.org-Journal|Research Paper|Indexing|Impact factor
  • List of all SCIRP predatory publications
  • Is Frontiers Media a Predatory Publisher?
September 08, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Watch wristbands, Predatory journals, Junk science

DALL·E - A package of Gouda and a package of mozzarella in the grass in the rain photo realistic

507. Mozzarella and Gouda Left in Rain for 4 Hours

September 06, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of mozzarella and Gouda cheese left in the rain for four hours.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Fresh Mozzarella Ball | Galbani Cheese
  • Amazon.com: 365 by Whole Foods Market, Mozzarella Bar, 16 Ounce : Grocery & Gourmet Food
  • Storage Temperatures Necessary to Maintain Cheese Safety - International Association for Food Protection
September 06, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Cheese, Time temperature control for safety

DALL·E Kids on a lawn playing in a water sprinkler in the style of norman rockwell

506. Kids on Lawns Irrigated With Water Containing Pathogenic E. coli

September 04, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of letting your kids play on a lawn 24 hours after that lawn has been irrigated with water containing pathogenic E. coli.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Justin Ekins on X: "@benjaminchapman @bugcounter would it be #RiskyOrNot if my kids played on the lawn watered by this E. Coli contaminated water 24 hours after shutting off the sprinklers? https://t.co/5CKbLVELOd" / X
  • More E. coli cases appear in Lehi; city taking steps to treat irrigation water | News, Sports, Jobs - Daily Herald
  • Lehi City - Lehi City
  • E. Coli Information - Lehi City
  • Survival of Escherichia coli in the environment: fundamental and public health aspects - PMC
  • Pressurized Irrigation - Lehi City
September 04, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Water, Cross-contamination, E. coli

DALL·E - Avocados in a pitcher of water in a refrigerator

505. Avocados Stored in Water in the Refrigerator

September 01, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of storing avocados in water in your refrigerator.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - risky ☣️ (updated)

  • Guacamole - Wikipedia
  • Research Triangle Park | Where People + Ideas Converge
  • neil chazin on X: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman is this actually risky at fridge temps (assuming your fridge is set properly)? https://t.co/J0dkvx3JnG" / X
  • Avocado in Water Storage ‘Hack’ Isn’t Safe. Here’s What to Do Instead
  • Internalization of Listeria monocytogenes in Whole Avocado - ScienceDirect
  • Behavior of Listeria monocytogenes in Avocado Pulp and Processed Guacamole - ScienceDirect
  • Evaluation of Avocados as a Possible Source of Listeria monocytogenes Infections, United States, 2016 to 2019 - ScienceDirect
  • Listeria monocytogenes Dose Response Revisited—Incorporating Adjustments for Variability in Strain Virulence and Host Susceptibility - Pouillot* - 2015 - Risk Analysis - Wiley Online Library
  • Ice Ice Baby - Wikipedia
September 01, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Avocado, Listeria monocytogenes

DALL·E variations on A guy with red beam shooting out of his eyes. The red beams are slicing an avocado. In the style of Jack Kirby

504. The Chipotle Autocado

August 30, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks posed by the avocado cutting machine known as the Autocado.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Lee Katz @lskatz@mstdn.science on X: "@benjaminchapman @bugcounter introducing the autocado, a new avocado cutting machine. #riskyornot? I feel like it would be risky unless there is a really good plan to clean it. Thinking of this FDA report too with all the contamination on the rinds. https://t.co/Fi0BDfDInv" / X
  • Meet Chipotle’s New Guacamole Robot, Autocado
  • James Marsden | LinkedIn
  • Kerry Bridges | LinkedIn
  • You need to wash avocados, unless you want listeria
  • Evaluation of Avocados as a Possible Source of Listeria monocytogenes Infections, United States, 2016 to 2019 - PubMed
  • Internalization of Listeria monocytogenes in Whole Avocado - ScienceDirect
  • Behavior of Listeria monocytogenes in Avocado Pulp and Processed Guacamole - ScienceDirect
  • Successful management of Listeria spp. in an avocado processing facility - ScienceDirect
  • 334. Snacklebox — Risky or Not?
  • The other James Marsden - Wikipedia
August 30, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Avocados, Listeria, Sanitation

503. Cracking an Egg on Your Kids Head

August 28, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of cracking an egg on your kids head.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • I know you have covered raw eggs many times on RoN - Twitter Search / X
  • Egg crack😂 #eggcrack #eggprank #funny #baby #kid #kids #babies #fun #... | egg cracking prank | TikTok
  • Risk Assessment for Salmonella Enteritidis in Eggs and Egg Products | Food Safety and Inspection Service
August 28, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Eggs, Salmonella, TikTok

502. Food When the Power Is Out for 40 Hours

August 25, 2023 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks eating food from the refrigerator when the power has been out for 40 hours.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Food Safety During Power Outage | FoodSafety.gov
  • Emergency Action Plan for Retail Food Establishment | Conference-Developed Guides and Documents | Conference for Food Protection
  • Ben Chapman on X: "@cathybrigham Do you have a thermometer to check the temp of foods? I’d say that by tomorrow the cooked food leftovers will be risky by tomorrow if you find that the food is in the 50s." / X
  • NCSU Keep or toss Power Outage 2021
  • Most Americans are not prepared to ensure food safety during power outages and other emergencies


August 25, 2023 /Don Schaffner
Time temperature control for safety, Power outage
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