Risky or Not?

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341. Leslie's Artichoke Dip

August 15, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from Leslie Horton’s horrendous holiday artichoke dip that tastes like vinegar but has no vinegar.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Woman Offers Her Signature Spinach Artichoke Dip To Anchors, Leaves Them Gagging On-Air
  • (Video of Leslie Horton’s horrendous holiday artichoke dip goes viral | Globalnews.ca
  • Amazon.com : Native Forest, Artichoke Hearts Marinated, 6 Ounce : Grocery & Gourmet Food
  • Easy Marinated Artichokes Recipe | Allrecipes
August 15, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Vinegar, Fermentation, Spoilage

340. Dried Chicken Juice Sponge

August 12, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks from a sponge used to wipe up raw chicken juice, rinsed and let drive for several days.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Carnac the Magnificent - Wikipedia
  • Amazon.com: All the Pieces Matter: The Inside Story of The Wire® eBook : Abrams, Jonathan: Kindle Store
  • Bacteria Survive on Kitchen Sponges and Towel in Restaurant and Foodservice Operations | ASM.org
August 12, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Meat juice, Sponges, Salmonella

339. Storing Used Eggshells in the Carton

August 10, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of storing rinsed, used eggshells in the carton in the refrigerator until all the eggs are used.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Contamination of egg shell and contents with Salmonella enteritidis: a review - ScienceDirect
  • An Overview of the Salmonella Enteritidis Risk Assessment for Shell Eggs and Egg Products - Hope - 2002 - Risk Analysis - Wiley Online Library
August 10, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Salmonella, Eggs, Eggshells

These are a different kind of dino. Do Not Eat.

338. Precooked Frozen Dino Nuggies Eaten by 2.5 Year Old

August 08, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of a 2.5 year old eating precooked dino nuggies while still frozen.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • chicken strips | Food Safety News
  • Fun Nuggets Dino Nuggets | Tyson® Brand
  • Dino-Buddies® (Rivercrest Industries, Inc.) | Dino-Buddies®
  • Oral Health in Canada: Health risks of frozen raw breaded chicken products: A local health unit perspective - PMC
  • Original Dinosaur-Shaped — Yummy Dino Buddies
  • Perdue Panko Breaded Chicken Breast Dino Nuggets - Frozen - 27oz : Target

Note this was recorded before the USDA FSIS announcement:

  • USDA Announces Action to Declare Salmonella an Adulterant in Breaded Stuffed Raw Chicken Products | USDA
August 08, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Salmonella, Chicken

337. Toilet Paper Roll Tubes for Crafts for Kids

August 05, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks using toilet paper roll tubes for crafts for kids.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Toilet Paper Roll Crafts: 50+ Great Ideas! - Mod Podge Rocks
  • Doctor uses toilet paper roll to check for choking hazards
  • Are Toilet Paper Rolls Sanitary for Crafts? - Colorful Craft Corner
  • Potential for aerosolization of Clostridium difficile after flushing toilets: the role of toilet lids in reducing environmental contamination risk - PubMed
  • Evaluation of bacterial contaminants found on unused paper towels and possible postcontamination after handwashing: A pilot study - ScienceDirect
  • Study Finds Bacteria in Unused Paper Towels
August 05, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Cross-contamination, Fecal contamination, Crafts

336. Unrefrigerated Ham & Cheese Croissant

August 03, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating an unrefrigerated ham & cheese croissant.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Food Safety - Time/Temperature Control for Safety (TCS) Food | SCDHEC
  • Time As a Public Health Control Example
  • Temperature Response of Individually Wrapped Packaged Sandwiches as a Function of Time
  • Screentone - Wikipedia
August 03, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Time as a public health control, Time temperature control for safety

335. Using a Chainsaw to Cut a Turkey in Antarctica

August 01, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks using a chainsaw to cut a turkey in Antarctica.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Anthony Mattox on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman risky or not: using a chainsaw to break down and prepare a turkey in Antarctica. Starting at 13:30 https://t.co/1VvbZWvPcU" / Twitter
  • Season 5, Episode 23: These Space Rocks Have Seen It All | NASA
  • Stihl Platinum Bar Chain Oil MSDS
  • Can you really prepare food with a CHAINSAW?! | Food Wars: The Fifth Plate - YouTube
  • Preparing food with a chainsaw - YouTube
August 01, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Oil, Chainsaw, Turkey

334. Snacklebox

July 29, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of using a snacklebox for your beach snacks.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • The snacklebox, perfect for a day trip : lifehacks
  • Happy Carcoochie Board 2022!
July 29, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Snacks, Beach, Charcuterie

333. Pink Sauce

July 27, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of the new food condiment Pink Sauce sweeping TikTok.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Sovereign Citizens Movement | Southern Poverty Law Center
  • Viral 'Pink Sauce' Condiment On TikTok Raises Eyebrows As Buyers Sound The Alarm - Blavity News
  • Pitaya - Wikipedia
  • Food Science Babe (@foodsciencebabe) TikTok | Watch Food Science Babe's Newest TikTok Videos
  • Pink Floyd – Have a Cigar Lyrics | Genius Lyrics
July 27, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Low acid foods, Garlic in oil, Entrepreneur

332. Unwashed Produce From a Bush Shared With Deer

July 25, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating unwashed fresh produce from a bush where deer have been feeding.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Chronic wasting disease may spread via saliva | CIDRAP
  • Enteric Bacterial Pathogens with Zoonotic Potential Isolated from Farm-Raised Deer | Foodborne Pathogens and Disease
  • Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) | Prion Diseases | CDC
  • Double down Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
July 25, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Chronic wasting disease, Zoonotic pathogens, Fresh produce

331. Sucking the Air Out of a Bag of Raw Chicken

July 22, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of sucking the air out of a bag of raw chicken with your mouth.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Aerosol - Wikipedia
  • The straw method for vacuum sealing - General - Anova Community | Food Nerd Forum | Anova Culinary
  • Food Safety Talk 79: You’re Into Botulism Country (with Merlin Mann) — Food Safety Talk
  • Quantification of Microbial Aerosol Generation during Standard Laboratory Procedures | Applied Biosafety
July 22, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Chicken, Salmonella, Camylobacter, Aerosols

330. TK's Flat Seltzer

July 20, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of drinking a can of seltzer that tasted flat and was slightly crushed after being in ice for an hour.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • TK on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman this can was normal shapes before being submerged in ice for an hour. Can crushed in, no leaks. Upon opening, can completely flat tasting as if somehow the CO2 escaped. Any risk of botulism in carbonated water? I can’t imagine, but the wife asked. https://t.co/yjLegc7fXw" / Twitter
  • FAQ: Water expansion on freezing
  • Sporicidal Properties of Chlorine Compounds: Applicability to Cooling Water for Canned Foods1,2 | Journal of Food Protection
  • Retort Cooling Water Bacteriological Load and Possible Mitigation Strategies for Microbial Buildup in Cooling Water
  • Kirkland Signature Sparkling Water, Variety Pack, 12 fl oz, 35 ct | Costco
  • The history of sparkling water - Borg & Overström
  • Carbonated Canning Line - YouTube
July 20, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Botulism, Seltzer, Leaky

329. Dr. Don's Sluggy Arugula

July 18, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating leafy greens on which a slug was found.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Angiostrongyliasis (Rat Lungworm) | Disease Outbreak Control Division
  • Rat Lungworm Frequently Asked Questions | The Daniel K. Inouye College of Pharmacy
  • Cook’s Market – Rutgers Gardens
  • The Occurrence of the Rat Lungworm, Angiostrongylus cantonensis, in Nonindigenous Snails in the Gulf of Mexico Region of the United States - PMC
  • Slugs: Potential Novel Vectors of Escherichia coli O157 | Applied and Environmental Microbiology
  • Invading slugs (Arion vulgaris) can be vectors for Listeria monocytogenes - Gismervik - 2015 - Journal of Applied Microbiology - Wiley Online Library
  • Occurrence of Salmonella, Vibro and E. coli in Edible Land Snail in Niger Delta, Nigeria
July 18, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Rat lungworm, Slugs, Snails, Fresh produce

328. Dr. Don's Soapy Pasta

July 15, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating pasta that fell in clean soapy water

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Subchronic oral toxicity testing in rats with a liquid hand-dishwashing detergent containing anionic surfactants - PubMed
  • Pediatric Exposure to Laundry Detergent Pods | Pediatrics | American Academy of Pediatrics
  • Washing Food: Does it Promote Food Safety? | Food Safety and Inspection Service
  • Cleaning and Disinfectant Chemical Exposures and Temporal Associations with COVID-19 — National Poison Data System, United States, January 1, 2020–March 31, 2020 | MMWR
July 15, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Pasta, Soap, Toxicology

Sometimes it's hard to find just the right image, and then other times you find a crockpot with a handle.

327. Chicken Soup Unrefrigerated for More Than 6 Hours

July 13, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks on transporting a crock-pot of chicken soup via plane and automobile.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

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  • ComBase

1: Google is really quite amazing sometimes.


July 13, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Chicken soup, Time temperature control for safety

326. Foods in Oil Stored for a Long Time

July 11, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of several foods (chili oil, herbs in oil and potato frying oils) stored for different times and temperatures.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Aunties Chili Oil 2016 - Google Photos
  • Current Food Safety Issues of Home-prepared Vegetables and Herbs Stored in Oil
  • 315. Continuing to Eat a Jar of Recalled Jif Peanutbutter — Risky or Not?
  • Earth-616 - Wikipedia
  • Conservative Prediction of Time to Clostridium botulinum Toxin Formation for Use with Time-Temperature Indicators To Ensure the Safety of Foods | Journal of Food Protection
  • (1) ★metal★matt★ on Twitter: "@bugcounter @benjaminchapman I fried some potatoes in oil; afterward the oil still looked clean, so I let it cool and put it back in the bottle. Stored at room temp, is it #RiskyOrNot to continue to use this oil for other cooking?" / Twitter
  • Reconcilable Differences Store
July 11, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Oil, Clostridium botulinum, Chili, Herbs

325. Ellens Dropped Water Bottle Lid

July 08, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of drinking from a water bottle after the lid has been dropped on an airport carpet.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Longer Contact Times Increase Cross-Contamination of Enterobacter aerogenes from Surfaces to Food | Applied and Environmental Microbiology
  • 126th AFDO Annual Educational Conference – Association of Food and Drug Officials
  • Home - Raleigh-Durham International Airport
  • Eating food off the floor may be OK, scientist says - CNET
  • 401 unauthorized | Aston University press release can not be located
  • 298. Canadian Airport Toilet Vegetables — Risky or Not?
July 08, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Cross-contamination, 5 second rule

324. Lemon Wedge in Your Drink

July 06, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming a beverage with a lemon wedge.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • Josh Trebach, MD on Twitter: "do u love getting a refreshing lemon slice in ur drink when ur out at a restaurant? 🍋🥤 nearly 70% of restaurant lemon slices in one study were found to produce microbial growth (with 25 different microbial species being identified)" / Twitter
  • Josh Trebach, MD on Twitter: "possible culprits include contamination with fecal matter, raw meat, and in the case of yeast, oral/fecal/vaginal secretions contaminating fingertips of employees enjoy ur lemons!! ~follow me for more tips on how to ruin things people love~ https://t.co/4px8XANbhB" / Twitter
  • Don Schaffner 🦠 on Twitter: "PhD Food microbiologist here. Anyone want advice on medical toxicology or fixing stuff in the ER?" / Twitter
  • Bacteria on Lemon Slices - Dirty Lemon Wedges at Restaurants
  • Microbial Flora on Restaurant Beverage Lemon Slices
July 06, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Lemon, Citrus, Cross-contamination

OK, I know there's no pen, but it is American Independence Day. This is a shitty low resolution photo which kind of captures my patriotic spirit at the moment.

323. Stirring Your Coffee With a Hotel Pen

July 04, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of stirring your coffee with a hotel pen.

Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼
Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

  • AeroPress Coffee Maker Official Store
  • Urban Dictionary:Mann's Assumption
  • Association of Food and Drug Officials – Many perspectives, one voice, since 1896.
  • Home | Dutch Bros
  • House Paint | Interior & Exterior Paint Colors | Dutch Boy
July 04, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Mann's Assumption, Hotel, Cross-contamination, Coffee

322. Chickpeas in a Leaky Microwaveable Pouch

July 01, 2022 by Don Schaffner

Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming processed chickpeas in a leaky microwaveable pouch.

Dr. Don - risky ☣️
Professor Ben - risky ☣️

  • Amazon.com: Customer reviews: The Good Bean Heat & Eat Coconut Curry Chickpeas, 10 Ounce (Pack of 4), Yellow
  • Yellow Tadka Dal
  • Products – The Good Bean
  • Notes from the Field: Botulism Caused by Consumption of Commercially Produced Potato Soups Stored Improperly --- Ohio and Georgia, 2011
July 01, 2022 /Don Schaffner
Botulism, Low acid canned foods, Chickpeas
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